January 14, 2013
Rockford, Illinois, man forgets to use his "indoor voice"
Last week Colin McGroarty of Rockford, Illinois, visited Mill Creek Elementary School near Geneva, Illinois, which his children attend. There he took umbrage at the way the kindergarten class (which includes one of his children) recited the Pledge Of Allegiance. He didn't hear the word "liberty." Worse, the kids segued from the pledge directly into reciting the school creed while still saluting the flag. He spoke in front of the children, making a reference to Nazi Germany. Later he emailed the school. Speaking directly to children at the school, he said "'Children, do not blindly follow to swear allegiance and to follow rules without knowing what they are,' and told the children to ask their parents about Nazis." He also emailed school officials saying "that he had 'spilled blood before' and would do so again to defend freedom."
He is no longer permitted on school grounds and his ex-wife (who has legal custody of the children) has gotten an "order of protection."
Googling Mr. McGroarty's name was very productive. There is first his profile on FreedomConnector. He has joined "Americans For Ron Paul," the "Kane County Taxpayer Tea Party," and "Tri-Count-Teas (Cook, DuPage, Kane)."
But the real treasure trove is Colin McGroarty's Facebook page which is up and very open to the public. He's a Lutheran and a graduate of the University of Phoenix. On his Facebook page you'll find many lengthy discussions on issues of the day. It includes an apology for his overreaction. Quotes are from Mr. McGroarty unless otherwise identified.
If the government knows that attempting to disarm Americans would result in more deaths than would be saved by gun control; then I have to believe that the real agenda is people control and clearly believe that the government is working against the interests of the people.
Specifically a disproportionate number of Zionist Jews [writing textbooks]. That is fact which can be verified.
That said, I won't condemn any man based on his religious beliefs but only on his own actions. Personal accountability is what we need in government.
If you are unfamiliar with U.N. Agenda 21, Google it and familiarize yourself with Agenda 21. It is our Patriotic duty to fight this evil that has already penatrated America.
Local Illinois communities such as Rockford and Elgin have already adopted Agenda 21. We must fight this evil at a grassroots level in every community.
Some goals of Agenda 21 include the elimination of private property, the elimination of religion, and the destruction of the American way of life.
He links to Glenn Beck's Agenda 21 as a source of info. Later in that discussion Mr. McGroarty says "Under NO circumstances will I EVER support a government that regulates breeding." One must assume he refers only to human breeding. But I think laws on rape, adultery and maybe even the obligations of paternity regulate breeding, to a degree.
If you're willing to compromise the 2nd Amendment then its purpose is already lost on you. The only reason the 2nd Amendment exists is solely for the purpose of protecting freedom.
I will live and die a free man.
I don't hunt; I don't shoot for sport; I will pick up a weapon and fight to the death to protect liberty for the next generation.
Trip Snyder Laws to enforce firearm training and back ground checks to own guns would not encroach on the 2nd ammendment.
Colin M. McGroarty Trip Snyder, that is a flat out fallacy. Any regulations of any kind on firearms, registration of, training with, or required insurance is in direct violation of the 2nd Amendment.
Please SHARE with EVERYONE. We must stop this nonsense. This is REAL and not made up Facebook propaganda. If you need to verify, my name is Colin M. McGroarty, firstname.lastname@example.org, 630-845-8108.
NEVER have I been ANGRIER, more SCARED, or more UPSET than I am today. I walked into my children's elementary school today to hear the children reciting the NEW pledge of allegiance. The NEW pledge of allegiance has been modified at the end. Instead of ending in, "with life, liberty, and justice for all," the NEW pledge of allegiance now ends with:
"…with justice for all (life and liberty are no longer part of the pledge) and I will obey all rules and follow all commands given to me by my teachers."
This is the same method in which fascism was introduced into schools prior to the Hitler Youth movement of Germany. If people can't draw the connections then God help us all.
The school where I witnessed this is Mill Creek Elementary School in Geneva, IL (Kane County). The principal was unwilling to discuss the issue.
I'm divorced and now have to battle an ex-wife who sees no harm in this indoctrination. Please pray for me that I'm successful in getting my children moved to a private school or to a home school environment. I'd even consider letting my children return to Mill Creek Elementary School so long as my wife and I both sign a letter excusing my children from any such activities. My ex-wife is not supportive of this and has stated she will show up with the police in the morning too force me to acquiesce. This is the same woman that sued, successfully, to have my children stop going to church (Lutheran). I did not comply with that order. I would rather have children that knew their father laid down his life for freedom than knowingly support their participation in such fascism.
Just had three police officers show up at my home (Winnebago Country) with my ex-wife stating that they have a court order (from Kane County) to collect my children because I'm a danger to them. In addition the court order states I'm no longer allowed on school grounds. That's what happens when you speak up in America. So now I've lost my visitation with them (traded Christmas Day for this time). Lots of hugs were given to the children and we were all choked up; they didn't want to leave and I didn't want them to leave.
From: Rick Petesch
Date: 01/09/2013 6:27 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: Colin McGroarty
Subject: Fwd: Pledge of Allegiance
Please see the attached e-mail. It contains the actual words of the Pledge of Allegiance and the actual words of the school creed that are recited at Mill Creek Elementary School. I believe you are overreacting based on your misperception of what you thought you heard. Please reconsider your position.
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
From: "George Petmezas"
Date: January 9, 2013 6:18:30 PM CST
To: "Rick Petesch"
Subject: Pledge of Allegiance
Hi Mr. Petesch,
Each morning, beginning at approximately 8:05AM students recite the Pledge of Allegiance as stated below. The Pledge of Allegiance is then followed by the Mill Creek Elementary School Creed. This is repeated for our PM Kindergarten class as well.
I Pledge Allegiance
To The Flag
Of The United States of America
And To The Republic
For Which It Stands
One Nation Under God
Indivisible With Liberty And Justice
We then follow the Pledge of Allegiance with the Mill Creek Elementary School Creed. It reads…
In order to develop good citizens, we believe that every person should:
• Treat others with respect,
• Follow school and classroom rules, and
• Try their best
Mill Creek Elementary School
[Fri. Jan. 11, 2013]
Are you comfortable with your child facing the Flag, hand over heart, and then reciting the Pledge of Allegiance which is then immediately followed by another motto or creed without a break between the two? Is this even legal?
I personally am not. I'd like a distinct break between the Pledge of Allegiance and any other creed or motto. Otherwise children are being taught to associate the second item (whatever it may be) with God, Country, and patriotism.
local elementary school, Mill Creek Elementary in Geneva, IL, has no break between the school motto and the Pledge of Allegiance. The school states they are two separate items but does not put a break between them.
forcing children to swear oathes in addition to the Pledge while facing our Flag in the name of God and Country is not free speech.
Marty Kelley Would you acknowledge that your email calling the school creed "teaching fascism plain and simple" and accusing the school of seeking to "introduce a Nazi way of life into the USA" was, just maybe, a little over the top? I think that one reason this story has gotten so much traction is that your characterization of this as "fascism" is perceived as completely out of proportion to the content of the five lines the children recite.
Colin M. McGroarty Marty, I'll admit I was heavy handed. However, you have to understand my background to understand why. My mother is from Latvia where almost half the population was killed or mass murdered in WWII. I'm very aware of how seemingly simple things can grow into something biggeer. Take a look at this article. This is the U.S. only 80 years ago and nobody knows about it because they stopped teaching it in school. I only learned about it in history books because I went to a private school. I really wish more people knew about U.S. history and our own crimes so that they aren't repeated.
He includes a link to this article from the San Francisco Chronicle about the history of eugenics in America which is one more aspect to America's racist history. Mr. McGroarty does later state that far more Latvians were killed by Russians in World War II than by Germans, but that Germany started the war.
Just got done meeting with two sheriffs from Kane County. They were both really nice guys; proud to have them on the force. Unfortunately, one of the items that they had to do was deliver a restraining order from my wife. Again, Patty is a product of the system, just how she has been raised. Please pray for her and only send positive thoughts; I suspect she needs them more than most people. I have a court date in Kane Country on the 31st. ALL MEMBERS OF THE PRESS ARE WELCOME; let me know if you need location and time.
Heather Gross Packenham Excuse me, but I am not sure where you are getting this from. I have been a volunteer in this school for years and I am there first thing in the morning when they recite the pledge allegiance. They do say life and liberty for all. You are relying on the recital of kindergarteners for your information. They have a hard enough time remembering their address or middle name. And as far as the School Creed It is as follows "In order to develop good citizens,
- we believe that every person should
- treat others with respect
- follow school and classroom rules
- try their best"
Colin M. McGroarty Heather, all I can tell you is what I witnessed on one specific day. That said, I'm not comfortable with anything being added to the Pledge of Allegiance regardless of whether or not it is a school creed.
The children should have a distinctive break between the two items and should not have hand on heart or be facing the flag.
[Fri. Jan. 11 2013]
Why am I so protective of children?
First off, let me tell you how I treat my own Children. From the point that my Children were born I was the primary parent. I was the one that got them up in the morning and I was the one that put them to bed at night. I was the one playing with them and I was the one taking them to church. I'm the one that got them baptized (my ex is an atheist). What my ex-wife did do was breast feed both of our Children for a full year each and read them stories right before bed. For that I will always be grateful to her. When the courts took my Children from me (I simply could not keep up with my ex's spending on lawyers since my accounts were cleaned out prior to the divorce filing) that was the single hardest thing I've ever experienced. The only thing that came close to that was when the Kane County Civil Court ruled that I could no longer take my Children to church. I'll admit that I ignored that ruling as the Bill of Rights and Constitution make it clear that government does not have power over religion. I am now able to "legally" take my Children to church.
This post goes on at length and contains WAY too much personal information to be posted publicly on Facebook. He says his father was physically abusive.
Jill Amoni Colin, am I wrong in assuming that you meant you would shed your own blood, in dedicated service, to ensure our rights? I always thought your reference was to that...am I right?
Colin M. McGroarty Jill Amoni, you are absolutely correct. Any veteran reading the post would understand it that way. I've never taken a life and am a firm believer in the Ten Commandments, one of which is "Thou shalt not kill."
[Mon. Jan. 14, 2013, about 9:30 AM]
Apology to Geneva area residents
I would like to apologize to Geneva area residents for unintentionally contributing to a heightened state of fear in the local area. My poor choice of wording in the publicly released statement after witnessing the children in the afternoon kindergarten class promising to obey rules and teachers while performing the Pledge of Allegiance was open to misinterpretation. Please understand that generating fear was not the intent. The event left me horrified and in a heightened emotional state due to my own personal knowledge and experience (knowledge of American history to include Eugenics, the genocide of my own people in Latvia, and the training of children by teachers to turn their parents in for differing political views in Soviet occupied Latvia).
Please rest assured that at NO POINT were the children or school officials ever threatened. In fact, anyone who actually knows me will tell you there is nobody you'd rather have between children and a threat than Colin M. McGroarty. It is because of my love and desire to protect children that I felt it was so important to get the word out.
On the day in question I twice asked to speak to the principal at Mill Creek School before the "disturbance" and was twice denied. The fact that school officials were unwilling to discuss the subject, further increased my concern. I'd also like to clarify that the "disturbance" where I told the children they shouldn't promise to follow rules when they don't know what the rules are and to ask their parents about the Nazis and why this lesson is important, did NOT include any profanity. While I have no doubt that had school officials been willing to discuss the issue, the outcome would have been quite different, that does not excuse my releasing such a statement without first having someone else proofread the statement, and distracts from the real issue with which I'm concerned. This is especially true given the current climate of fear generated by some of the horrible tragedies that have occurred in our great Country as of late.
For the record, I will also state there was no police involvement at Mill Creek Elementary School when I was present, despite what may have been reported in some of the local newspapers. I even spoke with a Kane County Sheriff this past week who stated that the papers had even misreported their involvement in the situation.
On January 8 Mr. McGroarty includes a link to this image which lists so called "powerhouse U.S. Supreme Court cases." Oddly, Marbury v. Madison (1803) is summarized thus: "The Constitution of these United States is the supreme law of the land. Any law that is repugnant to the constitution is null and void of law." While Marbury v. Madison did include a finding substantially similar to that, the significance of the case was that it firmly cemented the courts as the final arbiters of the constitutionality of laws - judicial review.
He also links to this 1961 talk about the dangers of socialized medicine by Ronald Reagan.