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November 11, 2010

Over-The Air TV Reception In Desert Hot Springs

I'd like to hear about TV reception in Desert Hot Springs since the digital switchover. I've been a faithful customer of Time Warner Cable, and would like to know if it would be a complete waste of money to buy an antenna to give over-the-air a try. I know some FM radio signals can be kind of iffy here, depending on the weather, and I've heard that digital TV broadcasts can be even fussier.

So tell me, good or bad, what your DHS over-the-air TV experience has been like since the switch. Leave a comment below or mail me at ronslog@rbgilbert.com. Please also give me some idea of where you are and what kind(s) of antenna you use.

Filed under Desert Hot Springs,Television | permalink | November 11, 2010 at 12:22 PM


The only update I have to give is that I've given up on OTA TV here in my current location. Too many trees and I don't want to go to the effort to try a roof-mounted antenna because I've seen the quality of what's available.

Posted by: Ron at Oct 13, 2016 12:39:11 AM

Any updates? Best antennas and if pbs kvcr is available in Coachella valley with small digital antenna? Lessons learned from antennas? thanks

Posted by: Frank at Oct 12, 2016 11:14:06 PM

im in palmdale, ca. i hate paying cable companies to watch local channels . what digital antenna could i get to watch tv?

Posted by: J at Jul 11, 2011 1:28:31 PM

When I first moved here (about 4 yrs ago) before I got cable, I got quite a few OTA channels from an old rabbit ear indoors. I am soon going to cancel my cable and wish to find a listing of available signals in Palm Springs, CA. I want a map and other information (signal strength, distance) because I plan to present a proposal to the Condo Association ostensibly to allow the installation of TV antennae about 2 ft or less in height, on a "zoned" basis to minimize visibility, yet placed to allow people to obtain OTA signals and not be constrained by indoor antennae and importantly not have to sign up with Time Warner Cable which is ripping this area off - major big time!! The sites I've visited provide no maps or signal strenghts (with map) of the transmitters in in the Coachella Valley Area. I know from my former experience there are quite a number of signals available here. What site will provide this information?

Posted by: bobo at Mar 8, 2011 2:28:06 PM

tvfool.com shows both Real and Virtual channels.

Posted by: teleview at Dec 16, 2010 6:45:56 PM

To find out what you can receive go to tvfool.com and dtv.gov . antennaweb is far to conservative with reception predictions.

Posted by: teleview at Dec 16, 2010 6:41:56 PM

Up here in Vista Hacienda, I have a indoor/outdoor antenna located on a shelf in my office. it looks out the window towards Edom Hill.

I get KMIR pretty well, KESQ decently, as well as the CW. CBS is hopelessly noisy, as well as the PBS station and most of the spanish channels. Since FOX, ABC and CW are all from the same transmitter, they are all on the same marginal reception here.

I put up the antenna just to get CW, since DirecTV doesn't carry the CW locally.

Posted by: Charlie E at Nov 17, 2010 12:14:24 PM

Run down on local over the air channels using a digital converter box with analog pass through, at least as available at our house. Signal is quite clear. Using regular rabbit ears on top of the TV set - no outside antenna feed. Best of all, its free!

KCWQ-DT channel 2-3
CW-affiliated television station for the Coachella Valley

KVWA channel 15

KVMD channel 31-1
Armenian-Russian TV net work

Impacto - channel 31-2
Spanish language

Italian TV - channel 31-3

KJLA - channel 31-4
bilingual (Armenian, Vietnamese, Chinese, Spanish)

Skylink - channel 31-5
Chinese drama, game shows, talk, news.

VYV - channel 31-6
Signal intermittent can't tell what it is.

TBW TV - channel 31-7

WCET TV - channel 31-8
Public TV programming

KDFX channel 33-2
ABC affiliate Palm Springs

KMIR - channel 36-1
NBC affiliate Palm Springs

KESQ - channel 42-1
ABC affiliate Palm Springs (actually in Palm Desert)

Weather channel with KESQ local weather and national weather feed

Posted by: Russell Betts at Nov 12, 2010 9:46:49 PM

Very helpful information, Mr. Martin. I got an email from a DHS resident who is using pre-digital rabbit ears and getting acceptable results (mostly? sometimes?). Using antennaweb.org I'm surprised to see we've got only 3 digital stations in the valley and half a buttload of analogs! But no PBS broadcaster is listed. I'm sure either KPBS or KCET (or both) has a translater here.

It says I need a "small multidirectional" antenna, and I guess "small multidirectional" is some standard term I can refer to. It shows a little graphic I'm supposed to look for on my "antenna box." That's helpful for those people who enjoy shopping in their local brick & mortar antenna store. Amazon doesn't have pictures of the packaging material. But I kind of like the look of this RCA large multidirectional antenna. It looks like it could double as a bathroom tile, if necessary.

Posted by: Ron's Log at Nov 12, 2010 7:52:47 AM

This is an area with which I have some familiarity, having been KMIR's analog transmitter engineer.
First, have you put your address in
to see what you are supposed to get ?

In Monrovia, where I live, we have only FOTA (free over the air) TV and get 103 "channels".
In DHS, it's less, but you should get all your favorite OTA networks from Edom Hill, plus maybe
THis includes KCWQ, KESQ, KMIR, and KPSE.
KVCR, the PBS from San Bernardino, and KVMD on Snow Peak licensed to 29 Plams should come in as well.
I know they serve Cabazon.

http://fccinfo.com is very useful too,
just put Palm Springs
in the "Place Name" search box. You can try DHS too.

Note that stations licensed as Low Power or Translator stations do not have to and may not have switched
to digital. Recently the FCC decided that they have to do so by the end of 2012.

Also remember the confusion of the station labels, they may not be the actual channel number.
For example, KMIR which advertises itself as channel 6 is only that on cable. It was 40 analog,
and is 46 on Digital. In Los Angeles, KCBS 2 is really on UHF 43. KABC is really on 7 and KCAL
is really on 9, so you need an antenna with longer VHF elements. You can't get those two in DHS.
KMIR (the {Milwaukee}Journal Broadcast Group) also operates KPSE 50, a
Low Power license, that is still analog, but will convert to digital with 3 streams in 2012.
If you find all this confusing, wait for Mobile DTV to get on the air, labeled as "MDTV", which
is not all hospital dramas, as one might assume from the letters. More streams to tiny screens.

I'll check reception for you next time I'm out that way. I seem to be like 400 miles away right now.

Posted by: Ednixon at Nov 12, 2010 2:48:59 AM

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