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December 11, 2008

Your Latest Dose of Religious Hypocrisy

A group calling itself Nø Møb Vetø placed an ad in the NY Times. The text of the ad is here. It concludes with this paragraph:

Therefore, despite our fundamental disagreements with one another, we announce today that we will stand shoulder to shoulder to defend any house of worship—Jewish, Christian, Hindu, whatever—from violence, regardless of the cause that violence seeks to serve. Furthermore, beginning today, we commit ourselves to exposing and publicly shaming anyone who resorts to the rhetoric of anti-religious bigotry—against any faith, on any side of any cause, for any reason.

Another group calling itself Truth Wins Out had this response to that:

In a breathtaking display of lies and hypocrisy, a group of anti-gay culture warriors and long-time Mormon bashers placed a full page ad in the New York Times pretending to be both victims of alleged homosexual "mobs" and staunch defenders of the Latter Day Saints (Mormons). Both claims are absurd and a cruel attempt for the victimizers to claim the mantle of the victimhood - which is a manipulative and cynical political ploy.

Today a full-page ad was placed by Truth Wins Out in the Salt Lake Tribune. Here's the text of that ad:

LIES

In the Name of the Lord

Lying is wrong,

But justifying blatant falsehoods in the name of God is particularly unsettling. The Bible calls it "bearing false witness." (Exodus 20:16)

Last week, a group of anti-gay activists under the name "Nø Møb Vetø" ran a misleading advertisement in the New York Times. The ad grossly distorted recent protests against Proposition 8—the ballot measure that banned marriage equality in California— as mob rule and violent.

Nothing could be further from the truth. Those demonstrations across the country were remarkably peaceful and were a vivid example of Americans exercising their free speech rights, and we think it's inexcusable for anyone to misrepresent these protests for political gain.

Leading culture warriors including William Dononue, Rich Cizik and convicted felon Chuck Colson portrayed themselves in their ad as staunch defenders of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

"Beginning today," they wrote, "We commit ourselves to opposing and publicly shaming anyone who resorts to the rhetoric of anti-religious bigotry, against any faith, on any side of the cause, for any reason."

The truth is, we wholeheartedly agree. We think we should start this effort by spotlighting the religious bigotry of the ad's very own signers. Here are a few of their quotations:

"Hollywood is controlled by secular Jews who hate Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular."
 — William Donohue, Catholic League

"Mormonism either affirms historic Christianity, or it doesn't. Since it doesn't, it can't call itself Christianity, a fact that all the good will and public relations in Utah can't change... While Mormons share some beliefs with Christians, they are not Christians."
 — Chuck Colson, Prison Fellowship Ministries

"Most evangelicals still regard Mormonism as a cult."
 —Rich Cizik, National Association of Evangelicals

It appears that the only thing these men have in common with Mormons is an uncommon zeal for promoting anti-gay discrimination. These activists are crying wolf on the Proposition 8 protests and are a wolf in sheep's clothing that preaches religious tolerance while practicing the most defamatory form of religious bigotry. That LDS leaders would cozy up to such anti-Mormon figures is senseless and makes for the stangest of bedfellows.

Activists like Colson, Cizik and Donohue must decide if they are "people of faith" or "people of fibs"—they can't be both. Lying is wrong, especially when it's done in the name of God.

News article with reader comments in the Salt Lake Tribune here.

Filed under Gay Issues,Religion | permalink | December 11, 2008 at 01:56 PM

Comments

By the way, "Where were the peaceful demonstrations" - your own source tells the real source of violence:

A quote from the comments at the third distorted story, typical of the homophobic filth that Prop 8 unleashed from day one: "It's time for REAL AMERICANS STAND UP for what is right and beat down these evil brood of viper-beast homos before they destroy this country forever. "

Prop 8 is a hate crime.

Posted by: Darr at Dec 12, 2008 8:47:26 PM

"I must have missed the peaceful ones."

Yep. The 'little old lady' has a long history of verbally abusing GLBTQ people. Her presence was a deliberate attempt to attack innocent people. Frankly, GLBTQ routinely experience far worse, without deliberately antagonizing anyone.

Your second source is similar. This group also has a long history of antagonizing and harassing GLBTQ people, and your use of their propoganda is dishonest.

The very idea of 'ministering to the gay community' by reviling our lives, is hate speech.

Your third source, from Fox, is also a gross distortion of events.

You've presented three distorted accounts, from three of the hundreds and hundreds of protests against Prop 8, which was an act of mob violence against GLBTQ people.

Repent.

Posted by: Darr at Dec 12, 2008 8:44:45 PM

To "GLBT's Chose Wrong Target": you consider the church's position requiring celibacy for homosexuals to be "not that strident." What would you consider "strident?"

You may be right about the burning of a Qur'an under those exact circumstances, but gay people certainly criticize intolerant Muslims. Did somebody burn a Book of Mormon on the steps of a Temple? If they did, I missed it.

I did suggest to some friends that we put together a list of all the LDS beliefs that contradict the Bible, but they calmed me down saying that sort of thing would not be constructive.

To "No on 8's Out of State Funding Higher": if you're going to try to put a chart into a website, learn to use HTML so it comes out readable. Your point is that the Yes On 8 campaign received $10,733,582 from out-of-state contributors and the No On 8 campaign got$11,968,285 from out-of-state. (See, I didn't even need a chart for that). A difference of $1,234,703 is 1.7% of all contributions, all sources, both sides. And your conclusion based on that information is what? Does somebody care about which side of the state borders contributions came from?

I don't think anyone here is saying the LDS church violated any IRS rules. This posting is about Christian hypocrites who are now pretending to condemn those who attack the Mormons while in the past they attacked the Mormons pretty strongly themselves.

Posted by: Ron's Log at Dec 12, 2008 7:17:59 AM

The following chart shows the amounts of money contributed by both in-state and out-of-state individuals and groups to each side.
In-State Donations Out-of-State Donations Total Donations
For Proposition 8 $25,388,955 $10,733,582 $36,122,538
Against Proposition 8 $26,464,589 $11,968,285 $38,432,873
Totals $51,853,544 $22,701,867 $74,555,411
Source: Tracking the money, Los Angeles Times

Note that out-of-state contributions to the "No" side were over $1.2 million higher than the out-of-state contributions to the "Yes" side. Another claim is that the Church violated its tax-exempt status by participating in the “Yes on 8" campaign. According to IRS rules, a tax-exempt organization may not support particular candidates or parties. However, the church did not participate in or intervene in any of the political campaigns for any of the candidates running in the 2008 election. The IRS does, however, permit a Church to take positions on issues

Posted by: No on 8's Out of State Funding Higher at Dec 11, 2008 10:32:02 PM

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is not that strident in its beliefs on homosexuality. In fact, they counsel full fellowship for celibate homosexuals. There is a congregation in Salt Lake City composed of non-practicing homosexuals who wish to keep Christ’s commandments.

So far, no gay-rights activist has had the fortitude to burn a Qur’an on the doorstep of a militant mosque where imams advocate the stoning of homosexuals (even celibate ones).

Oh, I forgot, criticizing Moslems is off-limits for the Politically Correct. The Moslem imams might issue a “fatwa” on all homosexuals.

Posted by: GLBT's Chose Wrong Target at Dec 11, 2008 10:27:32 PM

“The peaceful marches and rallies” ???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VS3Us-TRU0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdvvkVNS_zo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jiwc9ybBiAw


I must have missed the peaceful ones.

Posted by: Where were the peaceful demonstraions? at Dec 11, 2008 10:26:04 PM

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